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Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.

EGW is fairly inexpensive, but works well. Why not a 2 piece weaver type mount? That is a step above your typical standard leupold 2 piece mounts. Very strong and not as tactical looking as a 1 piece mount. Less weight than a rail as well. I'd go 2 piece steel weaver type mounts on a hunting rifle, if not going with DD's or the like. Just me though. What is it exactly that you have and want to do. You need something to hold a 30 oz scope?


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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.



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Egw and several others are good for the money (under $100) I do like the Nightforce 2 piece base for guns that need to top loaded as rails of course somewhat limit access for loading.

For a 700 based rifle the Hawkins hybrids remove the need for a rail in most circumstances outside of short tube compared to ejection port length.

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I went to rails on several rifles years ago. I mainly use Weaver Tactical rails on my 700's and Mountain Tech on my Tikka's. The reason I went to a rail is when I decide to play musical scopes between guns, it is fast and easy and I don't have to relevel my scopes.


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Weaver rails work great, and are made in the USA.

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The Leupold DD is definitely not junk


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Weaver rails work great, and are made in the USA.
For the money, it’s hard to go wrong with Weaver Tactical rails, if they make one for the rifle model you’re interested in.

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.
I like rails because they make it easy to move scopes between rifles without having to re-level them and because you have a lot more latitude with ring spacing. The downside is that they put the scope higher than it needs to be (in some cases a lot higher) unless you have a huge objective bell. Also, some of them are much longer than they need to be, which limits where the scope can go if you're trying to get it low.

That said, not all rails are created equal. A few years ago, I bought a cheap rail (can't remember the make) for a M-700 in 308. Something was badly wrong with it. The rear of the rail was visibly misaligned so it bent down and to the left compared to the rest of the rail. With a 200-yard zero, the 100-yard POI was to the left and the 300-yard POI was to the right.

My gunsmith replaced it with an EGW and the problem went away.


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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.

I prefer Picatinny rail to the Weaver as Picatinny accessories will not fit on a Weaver rail, but Weaver accessories will fit on a Picatinny rail.

I have tried EGW. One worked perfectly the other not so well. By perfectly I mean that the radiuses underneath the mount (where the bolt opening is) lined up just right. See photo below for the one that did not line up well.
Murphy Precision makes a good variety of mounts for the Winchester Model 70 and that will be my next stop. Not cheap but, they are very well made (have used them before) and they do make them in Titanium as well.

You have to make sure that the scope base hole spacing matches up with the product you want to purchase. And, I would inquire about the radius issue mentioned above before purchasing.

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The lowest pic rails I’ve used that are quality and a good value are Weaver Tactical and Area419. EGW rails are good but fairly high.

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I like Area 419, especially on Tikkas, and Warne Mountain Tech.
Also like the Burris Xtreme Tactical 2 pc bases. Light. Low. Steel. You don’t get as much fwd/aft positional adjustment as a full rail and no inclination, but if you don’t need those things, it’s a great setup.


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On hunting rifles I am also primarily using Burris Xtreme Tactical 2 pc bases, a great value.

I also like EGR and Warne Mountain tech.

Match rifles either OPS 2 Titanium (for FN-H SPR), Nightforce, or Badger...

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I have a lightly used EGW pic rail that I had on a M70 30-06.
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Originally Posted by okie john
With a 200-yard zero, the 100-yard POI was to the left and the 300-yard POI was to the right.

Over here with a pencil and paper desperately trying to figure out how this would be possible...

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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.

EGW is fairly inexpensive, but works well. Why not a 2 piece weaver type mount? That is a step above your typical standard leupold 2 piece mounts. Very strong and not as tactical looking as a 1 piece mount. Less weight than a rail as well. I'd go 2 piece steel weaver type mounts on a hunting rifle, if not going with DD's or the like. Just me though. What is it exactly that you have and want to do. You need something to hold a 30 oz scope?

I have a 30mm tube scope, meopta Meosport on a Winchester model 70 short mag. It’s kinda heavy. Just wondering if a picatini rail and rings wouldn’t be more stable platform than basic leupold mounts.

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I have a lightly used EGW pic rail that I had on a M70 30-06.
$25

Thanks for the offer but I need a wsm action footprint.

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Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.

EGW is fairly inexpensive, but works well. Why not a 2 piece weaver type mount? That is a step above your typical standard leupold 2 piece mounts. Very strong and not as tactical looking as a 1 piece mount. Less weight than a rail as well. I'd go 2 piece steel weaver type mounts on a hunting rifle, if not going with DD's or the like. Just me though. What is it exactly that you have and want to do. You need something to hold a 30 oz scope?

I have a 30mm tube scope, meopta Meosport on a Winchester model 70 short mag. It’s kinda heavy. Just wondering if a picatini rail and rings wouldn’t be more stable platform than basic leupold mounts.

It would be an upgrade in my book for sure.


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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
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Originally Posted by RatherBHuntin
Ok, what difference does it make on which brand scope mount rail you buy?
Looking to buy scope rail for my model 70 rather than just cheap leupold mounts. What would you recommend for a decent quality for the money.
Thanks for any input.

EGW is fairly inexpensive, but works well. Why not a 2 piece weaver type mount? That is a step above your typical standard leupold 2 piece mounts. Very strong and not as tactical looking as a 1 piece mount. Less weight than a rail as well. I'd go 2 piece steel weaver type mounts on a hunting rifle, if not going with DD's or the like. Just me though. What is it exactly that you have and want to do. You need something to hold a 30 oz scope?

I have a 30mm tube scope, meopta Meosport on a Winchester model 70 short mag. It’s kinda heavy. Just wondering if a picatini rail and rings wouldn’t be more stable platform than basic leupold mounts.

When you say "basic", I interpret that as Leupold standard bases. So, yes, a rail would be a huge improvement in strength over those. However, you won't give up much if you go to a 2 piece steel weaver type mount. Such as the Leupold PRW/QRW mounts and Rings. That is a very robust set up. I actually run that on my lightweight 338wm, pre 64 model 70.

So you are wanting this type of set up?:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
That is a Near Manufacturing 20 moa rail with TPS rings. 30mm scope^^^^ That rifle is a short action 300WSM FN built on a classic model 70 action. I'm showing a picture of that rifle because it matches your rifle closer than anything I have with a rail on it. The rail is a steel mil spec 1913 picatinny, that is very solid. The TPS rings are also steel. If you want strong, that is it.

There is a myriad of rings out there, that will work, as I mentioned in my last post. One of my favorites is the Nightforce ultra lightweight rings. I have a couple rifles set up with those rings and they are damn solid:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Some are 6 screw and some are 4 screw. Both seem to be very solid.

Again, however, the 2 piece steel weaver style bases and rings are plenty strong. The Leupold part # that will fit your rifle is: 49837
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Then you can use Burris Zee rings, or similar rings
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On a hunting rifle, they are a little more sleek and slightly less weight than the steel rail, like the one I pictured above.


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